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soki - 01 Jan. 2006 - 06:24:

iconless interface

happy new year :)
i replaced all icon groups in shell32 with an invisible 8x8 monochrome icon (and removed avis, thanks for the reply in the earlier thread) and so, shell32's now 3.19 mb ^^) now of course there are still files that have icons (there is no way to simply hack into explorer not to show icons or an alternative file manager without icons, right? would be too good to be true :D)
noticed in WinT's and Des' screenshots that there seem to be no icons (instead of blank icons), the text being close to the window border - or is that space manipulation and using blank icons?
in any case, a tutorial would be extremely cool :D (it's been a very long way to get to an iconless interface i'm sure... if you don't want to spill out your secrets that's okay of course :D)
a question aside - besides having replaced the shell32 icons,
"my computer" and "my documents" (and ie) still showed up as regular icons. they were replacable using iconphile, but it still
would be good to know where the icons really are...
and i removed a few graphics of the shutdown dialog graphics in shell32 and msgina (the windows logo and the buttons) - you can see i'm not a very experienced reshacker or customizer ^^
thank you :)

finally - this should probably be in another thread, just in case someone knows - in litestep, is there a way to minimize everything but the active window?
 
01 Jan. 2006 - 15:41 des
iconless is cool. :)

to "remove" the most of icons there is a regtweak :
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\CONTROL PANEL\DESKTOP\WINDOWMETRICS]
SHELL SMALL ICON SIZE = 0
SHELL ICON SIZE = 0
SHELL ICON BPP = 0
(to see the results log off after the modification and log on again!)

it will removes the most of icons, (from menu icons, explorer icons) but unfortunatelly not all. :( to remove those icons you still see after the regtweak, you have to reshack your parts of the system. i "hate" icons on my system, so i hacked my system "highly". :D but i think WinT has a more hacked system like me. :D
 
01 Jan. 2006 - 17:30 soki
thanks a lot :D
mhm to undo, do you delete the entry for small shell icon size (there wasn't one there) again besides changing the other two entries to their original values back again? only changed those two manually at first, worked great still :)
hmm... what icons do you still see after? those in the caption bars?
 
01 Jan. 2006 - 18:01 des
yes, it is not there by default. you have to add this reg key to the registry. :D btw, i am on xp sp1.

captionbars, common task bar still have icons after the tweak.
common task bar icons can be hided by editing the shellstyle.dll uifiles or reshacking some dll's (by deleting the icons)

captionbar icons can be hided only with an app, or reshacking system files. (replace a blank one or custom one).

in my system (see on my page) i use a custom icon for the captionbar that has a "m3." text. (actually it's an icon, but looks like a text :D) i reshacked my commonly used application's captioponbar icons. that means: i dont have ugly captionbar icons on my apps... :D
 
02 Jan. 2006 - 04:52 soki
cool thanks... :D heh and from one of the two masters of iconless interfaces :) don't use common task so that's not a problem for me
 
04 Jan. 2006 - 07:22 WinT
Keep in mind too soki, that I'm running BBLean as my shell, instead of explorer, which makes a big difference with icons, and also, I use an application that run's once at boot, then terminates, called "EatIcons". It removes ALL of the explorer icons, and also removes the gaps, resulting in smaller, trimmer, better looking menus and such.

This app is only for Win 98 though, which I still use... good for me, bad for you and des :(

Before BBLean though, when I still used the default explorer shell, I was still using EatIcons, and the left over icons I would "hack" out, particularly in applications and such. A bit time consuming, but worth it in the end.

I've got recent, working backups of all my hacked dll's, and in the event of a re-format, I simply copy the hacked dll's over after 98 installs, and whalla... no icons again, along with my little bitty app :)

I tried that reg hack that des pointed out too, but it made 98 act up really bad, had trouble getting back into my system after that, hehe :) Glad it works for XP users though.

Anyway, just thought I'de chime in on this topic, as it's one of my favorites.
 
05 Jan. 2006 - 00:18 beaker
It's funny. I find myself enjoying icon-less screenshots, but I don't think I could work efficiently that way. If anything, I find myself adding better icons to apps that have ugly default icons. Just had to chime in as well, because I find it interesting how people work.
 
05 Jan. 2006 - 08:29 WinT
Yeah, it's weird really how this all works, used to be a rather large debate floating around about it, though I felt that was worthless, as it simply is personal choice, nothing more, but I'de go to bat for no icons any day!

*WinT runs from beaker!

hehe, I tell ya though, I remember having icons, but I never used icons that actually represented any sort of file or anything at all really. They were used to "match" the desktop up in full, so in other words... a zip file didn't have a "zip file" type of icon, a folder didn't have a "folder" icon, etc....

I've always looked at the text, always, just again, as you pointed out beaker, it's how I, personally, work... but some can't live without icons, which is ok too.

I tell ya though, I sometimes get a bit jealous when looking at those nice icons you XP users can have, they do look good, no doubt about it at all.
 
05 Jan. 2006 - 19:53 beaker
re: XP icons. I replace them with Scrow's 24-bit icons anyway ;p
 
06 Jan. 2006 - 00:05 WinT
hehe... I'de probably end up doing the same thing myself if I were running XP :) Scrow's icons always have been some of the best.
 
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