He's hypocrit. I'll bet you a lot of ppl screaming about copyright stuff have illegal software.

Thing a destroying a computer is this: What if you're wrong? These systems are proven to be error prone. They never talk about how they determine lawbreakers, just what they want to do to them.

I'm into this stuff, so hearing about it is cool by me.

I saw this last night on zeropaid.com and have been talking with people about it at work off and on today. We've come to the conclusion that even if there was a way to somehow remotely destroy a computer for trading mp3s illegally someone would figure out a way to prevent it from happening within days of the technology been put into widespread use. I'm serious, think about all the thigns that have been done to prevent people from pirating anything. I'll leave you with two examples...

Registering Windows XP...joke
digitally signing mp3s created with WMP...I'm sure you've heard of Free Me.

Just like a little kid and a cookie jar, no matter how high you put up those cookies, one day that kid will figure out how to get up there to get one.

I don?t think the problem here is about the technical way to destroy ones computer.... Its more about the moral / ethics involved with this, I think it is 100% wrong that someone is judged by a piece of automated software (or some guy working for Company USA). Esp. if they are aiming non-us computers. This should go to court, every time with every case.. (Look at the BSA,. their way of working is sad & also very trival IMHO, this would be aimed at every individual...)

Politics does nto require ethical thought. Especially when the politicians have corporate backing. Anyhow, I find it all nonsensical.

I just hope the lamers are all talk and no action. This would be a crappy time for politicians to actually keep thier promises. -.-;

"Politics does nto require ethical thought" I think it should

and lol at red

"Do as I say not as I do."

Yeah it should, but it doesn't. It's all just about the "old boys club", just like everything else high up in the tree.

...I just thought it was funny.

...and there's the magic-marker cd antipiracy destroyer...

Yeah, and according to the DMCA magic markers should now be considered illegal given the fact that they're being used to circumvent copyright protection. Personally, I find FreeRip a little less hit or miss than the magic marker approach, but to each his own, I guess.

CD Player + Line In + Recorder App + Encoder = MP3's no matter what.

PK: Ya ethics should be involved in politics and law. Inocent until proven broke is our court system in a nut shell. Walking into a court room feels more like casino than Vagas too.

Crae: Ya, "old boys club" and the "old money" club.

I wonder what a politican is worth these days?

Funny how so much money goes to (and is controlled by) such worthless ppl.

There is one thing I love about this counrty: I can openly say how much it sucks! If you think about it, that makes me a patriot.

I find it only natural to openly say what I think. But I'm sure ya'll are aware of that.

As for CD ripping, I always use EAC. Works flawless.

"Inocent until proven broke is our court system in a nut shell." Good, not much of a democracy if that wouldnt be the case :-)

"I can openly say how much it sucks!" As long as you hold up an
american flag isnt it ;-)

As for CD ripping, I always use CDEX. Nice app

PK_: You should check out the CDex messageboard, there's a pretty active community there as well. I really like CDex's simple, but very functional approach.

joh6nn: I really really (repeated 100 x's) agree with your schmuck comment. I started a post at skinz.org a LONG time ago about this very thing...it's real easy to point fingers yet not look in the mirror. This stuff really gets me riled (sp) up.

Hah. I'll show you the letter my friend wrote to that guy:
==========================================
Title: Self-Proclaimed Huguenot
First Name: Daniel
Last Name: Kreyer
Email Address: DaFlamingCarrot at hotmail dot com

Message:

Dear Mr. Orrin Hatch (or whom ever represents him),

I am a young California resident writing about your comment that the computers of people who have downloaded ill gotten music should be destroyed. I love my ill gotten music and my computer. I can honestly say that without my computer and my ill gotten music I would have not been able to concentrate through and finally graduate high school.

You have claimed that downloading ill gotten music is analogous to stealing something from a store. Like, a chair for instance. That analogy is specious. It would be more like I didn't want to pay for that particular chair, and copied the design and built my own exact replica for my own private use. I'm not going to sell the chair, Senator. And I wasn't going to buy the chair in the first place. I might perhaps share the design with my friends so that they can make chairs of their own. Everybody deserves a good sit!

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for supporting musicians. Just a few months ago, I went to a bar and payed eight bucks to see my favorite rapper, a MC Paul Barman, perform live. Now, they kicked me out because I was too young, but I was willing to pay! I just don't like these big record companies and the RIAA and such. Did you know that the musicians only make about 12% for their work on a album? And that has to be split up among the band! Oh yes, the record companies have to spend ridiculous amounts of money distributing the album across the world. I have no trouble distributing stuff across my town Santa Barbara at no cost to me or my friends. I'm not selling it, and yet I lose no money.

And you can't say that this sort of thing doesn't help at all. Without ill gotten music, I would have never heard of people like MC Paul Barman and been willing to pay eight dollars to sneak into a bar just to see him. I never got to see him because of those minor laws, by the way, but that's a different letter.

That's all I want to say. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely, Daniel Kreyer, Ill Gotten Music Lover

PS: Though we may have our differences, I wish good luck on your music career.

KILL EM ALL$*&^#@$*(&#@$

err *cough*

*huggles k-lite, bearshare, and eMule* my lovelies... you are my loves....

right slightly more serious note thing:

we should just apply this to every crime! then if someone steals a car, thier car is trashed! but, wait... what if they dont have a car?

hehe.

HDD's are pretty small and easy to hide... well anywhere if its in the right kind of container..

I can honestly say 90% of the music I have on my hard drive, I would not have paid money for. A lot of it is crap that I don't really like a lot. When I find some new group I like, I go and get thier cd.

I'm trying to get away from the mainstream completely. Most the music I download is free for all to do so. I've always rooted for the underdog anyway. I don't want my money going to fat-cat big-wigs like it is now. Better a nobody like me who (at least relitively) needs it. So ya, I'm pretty much on a boycott.

This 1D107 probly would try to trash my hard drive for that music.

(Btw, does HDD = Hard Disk Drive? I've seen the acronym forever, but never what it stands for.)

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