Try and get a students verison. It's so much less. If they ask, just say you forgot your id, or ask a friend to get it for you.

As for the notepad thing, there are thousands of them. If you really want to do it, you are better off starting with an open source one and messing with it.

Personally, I won't touch M$.NET at all. I'm against it, and want nothing to do with it. This isn't the thread to thrash it though.

On a final note, there are free C++ compilers. I haven't used C++ in some time, so I only know of there existance, and that G++ is one of them. It may not be for win32, but I'm not sure. Worth looking into though. C++ blows vb away over all.

Red: I'll be learning C++ soon, within the year, but VB (IMO) can solve some problems and to me is a nice intro to basic windows programming.

Also, VB.NET is simply a more corporate-like edition of VB and it's tools are much better than 6 ever was. I might note that, all in all, VB.NET is simply more of a name, it still holds 99% of the 'original' vb tools and stuff like that.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, but personally I don't like VB.NET. Although really a c++ programmer, I've found myself using more and more VB6 for prototyping and even full projects because it's really a nice and (dare I say?) powerful language. VB.NET, as the authors themselves have said, is more geared towards web applications and so on - there is much less emphasis on creating windows applications. Since that's what I do the most, VB.NET isn't for me.

Also keep an ear out for someone selling a used version. Esp ppl who have changed majors, dropped out, or in job that uses C++, java, dephi, etc. If I had a copy, I would sell it to you for pretty cheap. Heck, I might have just given it to you since I like you and it's worthless to me.

not trying to rain on your parade, but VB.net is awful... VB6 is much better imho. 20 mb runtime files for .net, and also 10mb ram usage for a blank form. anyways .net is not a more corporate version or whatever, it's just the next version of their software.

*shrugs*
I'll just have to pull out my VB6 book then, since no one cares about .NET... Either way I will hopefully be able to come across some C++ software or VB stuff soon... (It's good having close relatives in tech college )

.NET was why 545 went to C++.
That says something right there.

There are some very definite changes in .net that have prevented me from using it more. For example, to create a circle on a form in 6, you could do myForm.circle. Here's some code I found on how to do it in .net:

= begin code =

'dimension variables of local scope
Dim myGraphics As Graphics

'return the current form as a drawing surface
myGraphics = Graphics.FromHwnd(ActiveForm().Handle)

'draw an ellipse inside a bounding rectangle with a Pen instance
myGraphics.DrawEllipse(pen:=New Pen(color.Blue), _
rect:=New Rectangle(x:=5, y:=5, width:=70, height:=25))

= end code =

Quite a difference .

Ya, em and I had talked about it. He said you might as well learn c++ since it's gotten so complicated. I've heard similare talls from other coders too. Thx for the example though. More amunition for my anti-.NET rants.

I thought i has said something to the affect that i was putting my .net book down? jeez let this thing die, guys.

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