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des - 06 Oct. 2006 - 16:24:

the Hybrid (an active desktop / real desktop combo)

i am working on a big project. it is an active desktop (one html file) but has a lot of functions*. it is active desktop and real desktop combo or something. i just call it the hybrid! :)

functions:
- todo / quicknote(s) (beta version, now only 1 message. data stored in the registry)
- task scheduler (datas stored in the registry)
- date/time, clock, namedays, countdowns/countups, etc.
- dragable content (it remembers last position. data stored in the registry)
- events/reminder (it's very beta now.. or gamma version? :) data stored in the registry )
- css basic (fontname,size,bgcolor,etc) document settings (with inputs, datas stored in the registry)
- drive informations (hdd/cd/dvd/flashdrive)
- rss reader (works only with sp2?? wtf? :()
- "real" desktop 'icons' (or just its text). (it lists what is on your real desktop within html (with innerhtml and refresh interval) i have a static version which works fine but need help with the 'refreshed' version.)

most of the scripts are listed above are available on my page but i want to merge all scripts into one htm and want to release it on my page as a little 'application' or something.. :)

but as you can see i have some troubles with some scripts. so i need some helps. :)

my firs problem i dont know how to fix this;

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damn! i cant copy the code here in proper format! so here it is: http://des.virtualplastic.net/listdir2.htm and the static version which works fine: http://des.virtualplastic.net/listdir.htm
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it lists only 1 file in the htm. if i use a static version (without refresh interval) it works fine (all files on desktop listed) but i want to use the refreshed version. (because if i download something to the desktop it will show up immediately on my active desktop, and i can click on it and it will open. :) (i dont use real icons on my real desktop.)

can somebody help me ? :)
 
06 Oct. 2006 - 19:41 DJ_Loao
Unfortunately, I know nothing about VBScript so can't help out, des, but I've always been impressed by your active desktop setup(s) and I'm looking forward to the prospect of some new goodies!

You inspired me to improve my AD with your creative and productive scripts, so if you need any beta-testers I'd happily help out! :)

Good luck - hope you get it sorted soon!
 
07 Oct. 2006 - 22:16 des
thanx.
some days and a beta version will be available for testers :)
 
08 Oct. 2006 - 22:21 des
09 Oct. 2006 - 00:45 DiosDePyro
I'm beta testing it and I love it!

I think I might end up using this, since I've been looking at using an active desktop.

A couple problems though:
The My Comp, Recycle Bin, Local Network, and Ctrl Panel links on the desktop don't seem to open anything.
I have files on my desktop that are links (.lnk), and when I open them it tries to do it through IExplorer, and it makes me choose to open, save, or close (like opening a potentially dangerous file).
The link in settings for opening the source code doesn't open anything either.


All in all, the positives far outweigh the negatives, and I'm going to continue trying this out!


.:EDIT:.
I've found that you can get the desktop links working if you change the target='_self' to target='_new'
 
09 Oct. 2006 - 09:20 des
The My Comp, Recycle Bin, Local Network, and Ctrl Panel is simple shell:links (i.e: shell:Drivefolder or shell:Desktop) maybe that is the problem. (but it works on my comp and my brother's computer. strange..) but i will change that links to javascript opener.

i noticed if there are lnk files on desktop that wont open immediately and want to open in iE. i only tested it with files (exe, mp3, jpg, txt, htm, etc) which works fine for me. (opens it). hmm... but if somebody use this, those lnk files will be unnecessary because it can be a part of the htm file. (with links) :) but i will see what can i do. :)

i also noticed if i use the scheduler my brothers windows (winxp pro sp2) drops an error msg after opening the task. strange. damn!

and yes, the view source seems to work only on sp1(?) :))) ehh. i will remove that!
thanx for testing. ;) btw what OS do you use? (xp pro or home ,sp1, sp2?)

edit:
-i changed list on files's target to _new
-removed an unnecessary refresh() command from the (call setInterval("exec();clock();",60000)) >> this caused an error after running a scheduled task. now it's fixed. ;)
-also changed main links to javascript opener (but still using the shell:links)
-edit ,view source link removed

version 1.1 uploaded. :)
 
09 Oct. 2006 - 17:33 DJ_Loao
I've been having a play with v1.1 (on XPPro SP2) and this is SO COOL des! Fantastic work! :D

A couple of things I'm having trouble with:
1. The clock 'module' appears by itself after prviously having been hidden.
--It re-appears when the desktop has not been clicked for (about) one minute.
--It disappears again when I click on 'Settings' link, nothing else.
--No error is reported.
--It appears just under the control panel link (which is not where I put it when I activated it, and subsequently switched it off again).
--When it re-appears, I cannot drag it anywhere.

2. The scheduler does not function for me. I've tried files and executables from different drives, but nothing has run so far.

Everything else seems to be working, and its very fast when opening My Computer etc! :)
 
09 Oct. 2006 - 17:47 des
DJ_Loao:

aham. i think i know what might be the problem. there is something confusion between clock and scheduler scripts. .. ;) lol :)) i didnt notice this type of bug. and then now i see it is really a bug.. ehh.

i will fix this soon. :)

edit: it seems the clock bug is fixed now. ;) i will check the scheduler script and optimize it. and after reupload again the stuff.

edit2: okay uploaded again. btw, the scheduler works for me. (with sp1, sp2 it does the job fine).

and do you get any error messages when the scheduler does nothing?
 
09 Oct. 2006 - 19:16 DJ_Loao
Nope. No messages, no action... Just me sitting watching the scheduled time come and go...


I've since tried it again with a longer wait time (previously I'd been setting the schedule time no more than 5 minutes ahead) and it produces a 'The system cannot find the file specified' error message (L:260, Char:1).
The file I was trying to run was this:
D:\Program Stuff\Misc\WinSpy.exe

I'll give 1.2 a try, see what I get.
 
09 Oct. 2006 - 19:21 DJ_Loao
Still getting the same error message with that exe in v1.2.

C:\WINDOWS\notepad.exe runs fine, though, so I guess its the space in 'Program Stuff' that it doesn't like.
 
09 Oct. 2006 - 19:52 des
yes. the problem is the space... i will try to convert spaces to %20.

edit:
converting spaces into %20 didnt help me. the wsh ignores(?) it and dropes me "path not found" msg again. also tried to run (with run menu) an exe with %20 in its path and didnt work neither.

it seems shell run doesnt like spaces but shell execute command do the job!! FIXED!!!!!!!!!!! :) i tried with "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE" and worked fine!! :)
thank you guys helping me!! any problem? :) 1.3 uploaded.
 
09 Oct. 2006 - 22:00 DJ_Loao
1.3 works fine now.
No schedule issues, no clock issues. The scheduler opened txt files as well as exe's, which is cool. :)
Everything is behaving as expected now.

Looking forward to seeing whats coming next - this is a great system you're building! :)
 
09 Oct. 2006 - 23:22 des
:) the next days still is for testing but after i add more features or make existing ones better... etc

upcoming features:
- hdd/cd/dvd/removable drive infos (like on my desktop + do it a little bit better! :))
- system uptime and another system infos panel
- events/reminder (sooner or later. :) i already have a working version but that is very basic. have to figure it out how to do it more flexible)
- do the 'files on desktop' more flexible, as part of the desktop or just make it nicer etc.. (file size, type etc.)
- a switcher that show or hide "icons" (gif/png/etc). >> iconless interface or with icons.
+ i dont know. tell me what features do you want? ;)
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 01:22 DJ_Loao
It might be something you have in mind already, but I'd like the ability to choose a wallpaper image for the background.
I know that might make the current drag'n'drop situation difficult (with div backgrounds etc), but sometimes I get bored of a plain colour!

A built in calendar display linked to the events list would be good - I could stop using Rainlendar. (I like to keep as few processes running as possible!)

That and a multi-note notepad/memo thing would be great. I already have one that writes to my AD that reads and writes a text file. I find that useful, so that would be a great addition.


I can see the 'Hybrid' put to permanent use on my desktop once all the features you've outlined are ready! :)
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 04:52 DiosDePyro
I just replaced the first beta with 1.3 and it's working great!
The desktop shell commands are working now.
The header where the source link was is still there, but that's easily fixed.

Like DJ_Loao pointed out earlier, the schedule doesn't seem to work for me, but if he thinks it's fixed I may be doing something wrong.

Something that might be an idea for the future would be to make it self contained, in its own directory, so you could bring it to work or school without having the need to edit the registry.

P.S. I'm on XP sp2
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 09:51 des
dragable bgpicture and the ability to choose a wallpaper is a good idea. and easy to do it. i will do this soon.

a full textfile based version also a good idea. i will do this later. (after this version)
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 15:40 des
here are some fresh screenshots:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2699/animation1uj3.gif
http://des.virtualplastic.net/hybrid_preview2.png

1.4 is under construction.
:)

(screenshot edited)
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 18:38 DJ_Loao
DiosDePyro: The scheduler doesn't operate on the minute (ie, when the time is exactly 18:34.00, for example).
I'm guessing its timer is on an interval of one minute, so you sometimes have to wait up until just before the following minute before it activates.

Try it again and wait the whole minute, hopefully you'll see it. :)

des: Screenshots look good. Looking forward to .4!
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 18:46 des
the scheduler and the clock work with 1 minute refresh interval. it means if 18:41:23 and you scheduled to 18:42 , the scheduler will open @ 18:42:23!!!! not @ 18:42:00!!!!!

if you change the refresh interval to 1 sec (1000 millisec) then the scheduler will always execute @ 18:42:00 or 16:01:00 .. etc.... but i think it is unnecessary to set it 1 sec .. 1 minute is good.

i upped the 1.4. i hope still no problems with that! :) you have to merge the regfile again because there are some changes in that!!!!
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 19:16 DJ_Loao
TONS of errors when loading 1.4.

L:52 Char:1 Cannot read registry: settings\bgpicturepath
L:832 Char:1 Cannot read registry: settings\visibility_icons
L:937 Char:1 Cannot read registry: settings\visibility_icons
L:1008 Char:1 Cannot read registry: settings\dimg_dimx
L:1098 Char:1 Cannot read registry: settings\syspanel_dimx
L:397 Char:3 'undefined' is null or not an object

Problem with the new .reg file? I didn't see any new values in there...
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 19:29 des
yes! i forgot to upload the new reg file! ;) try now!
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 19:50 DJ_Loao
Excellent stuff, man! :)
Loving the desktop image controls.

Would you like me to send you my textfile notes script to look at?
I'll need to tidy it up a little first, but you can add/edit/delete notes individually with it, and you shouldn't find it too difficult to format the output to fit your requirements.
Let me know.
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 19:59 des
yes. i want it. :)

my previous quickonte was a cookie based javascript stuff which was excellent. multiple lines, deleteable etc... but that wasnt my work 100% . (that was ~70% of my work) but i loved it... also used previously cookie based drgable elements... that was also good. but it had some bugs... this registry based dragable stuff much better and faster than cookie based. (i mean reading the last position)

unfortunately there is a limitation with this type of user input. it only can handle 264 characters. :(

and there are some stuffs that i cant do yet. (i.e. as i posted in my first comment)
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 20:15 DJ_Loao
Something I just noticed... I have folders as well as files on my desktop, which don't show in the current 'Desktop Files' view.
Could it be expanded to include folders and their contents? Either in the permanent desktop files box, or maybe a cascading menu idea would be great.

I'll sort out my notes script and send it your way asap :)
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 20:30 DJ_Loao
OK, so I've sent you an HTML page with the script in it.

You'll need to edit the 'filepath' variable to point to a local text file to get it to do anything at first. ;)
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 20:44 des
okay. got your mail. thanx. (this script is very cool! :) )

yeah, listing subfolders is easy. :) but their contents too? huhh.. i will try it.......but i am tired now. see ya tomorrow with 1.5 or something. :D
 
10 Oct. 2006 - 23:23 DiosDePyro
About scheduling: I had thought about that, but I guess I wasn't waiting long enough =]
It works for me now!

I'm liking the new settings too.
 
12 Oct. 2006 - 19:45 des
1.5 out now.

- added a colorpicker (but it is painfully slow during drag. :( )
- added 1 hdd, 1 optical, 1 flash drive 'main link' with total size and freespace info. (need to be configured first!)*
- some changes on settings panel

*dont change hdd letter with optical drive letter or flashdrive letter (when asking) because each type of drive have its own "else-if" statements in teh script. (i.e; if "DriveExists" (flashdrive) or "IsReady" (optical drive) . this is because if there is nothing in the cdrom or if flashdrive is unplugged...the hdd is an "always on" thing) .

drive info is updated every minute also.
i will optimize it later.... but this is BETA!!!!! :)

 
12 Oct. 2006 - 22:26 DJ_Loao
Clever. I like the colour picker.
Also, the desktop folder ability is appreciated. ;)

Had issues with the Drive data display - if you mis-type the drive letters when setting up, you can't currently reset them without diving into the registry (can you?).

Another note for future versions about the upper-left links:
- Can they be draggable, too?
- Can the link text be editable?
- Can the link order be editable?

Also, would it be possible to make the Desktop files display box without the box and title bar - so it looks like the desktop links on the left? Maybe you could toggle the border on and off in the settings panel?

Cheers man. You keep up the good work, and I'll keep testing it! ;)
 
12 Oct. 2006 - 22:48 des
"Also, would it be possible to make the Desktop files display box without the box and title bar - so it looks like the desktop links on the left?"

- yes, the original idea was that to have desktop files within the html like a "normal icon". (this is where the idea of the "hybrid" name comes from) i will do it in a future version. but it wont be "refreshed" because i still cant do that. :(

"if you mis-type the drive letters when setting up, you can't currently reset them without diving into the registry (can you?). "

- not yet. but will do it.

and about the upper-left links:
yes, i will do what i can. actually it can be done easily, it is all just matter of time. (lots of code)

and i will optimize the drive info display. i mean wont be depended on what type of drive really is. (i will REwrite their "else-if statements".)
thx ;)

okay.. 1.6 is under construction with your needs.. etc... i think 1-2 week(s) and will be available.. (or maybe sooner :) i dont know. a lot of things to do.)
 
12 Oct. 2006 - 23:50 DiosDePyro
I like the color picker, it's working great!

P.S. You don't mind if I make a few adjustments to the code, right? Just little things like changing the cursor type and adjusting the alignment of some of the text. It's still got your copyright, don't worry :P
 
13 Oct. 2006 - 00:24 des
DiosDePyro:

no copyright. do what you want . no problem. :)
 
13 Oct. 2006 - 01:02 DiosDePyro
err not copyright, but "Hybrid beta 1.5" stuff. I think you know what I mean.
 
13 Oct. 2006 - 05:16 mizu.taifux
Very Cool the initiative I made the test and no bug. I am placing some links for study or until new ideas for implementation... clearly that many of members already must have looked at in some of these sites but they are interesting also:

  • http://eyeos.org/

    eyeOS is an Open Source Web Desktop Environment, commonly known as Web Operating System (Web OS) or Web Office.


  • https://www.youos.com/

    YouOS is an experiment in a new kind of computing platform.


  • Good ideas for future hybrid version !!
     
    13 Oct. 2006 - 13:23 des
    whoa!!! youos is cool. i like it.

    but hybrid is a client side stuff without the need of using any external app. (web server,php, etc) and this is an active desktop enhancement not a complete OS. :)

    but thanx for that links. it is cool.
     
    13 Oct. 2006 - 14:53 DJ_Loao
    Cheers des - thanks for taking my comments on board.

    Looking forward to the next release! :)
     
    14 Oct. 2006 - 04:02 TGHI
    My GBLXOS was a hybrid OS similar to what you describe - I can try and help out with any VBScript that you need .

    I would make the source public, but I had a brutal hard drive crash, and most of the code needs serious re-editing - and if you don't have a very intimate knowledge of HTML/JavaScript/VBScript, you'll never get it to work right....:P
     
    15 Oct. 2006 - 00:54 des
    DJ_Loao:

    ... is it necessary to have draggable, editable link text ? just open the source and u can edit what you want. :P lol

    TGHI:

    can u help me with this? how can i fix this? http://des.virtualplastic.net/listdir2.htm the static version (without refresh) works fine. but this doesnt. :(
     
    15 Oct. 2006 - 15:09 DJ_Loao
    True, but I didn't know if you were aiming at a completely configurable system -down to the last detail. :)

    Better get my text editor out, then! :D
     
    15 Oct. 2006 - 18:07 des
    DJ_Loao:

    heh lol.. in a future version i will do what i can. :) yes, i want it to be a "completely configurable system" also. :)
     
    17 Oct. 2006 - 03:22 TGHI
    des:

    No problem! The refresh problem was that you were only calling the variable 'list' once, and when it loops it only returns the first file in the array.

    Fix:

    function list()

    Folder = "E:\Web\"
    Dim objFS, objFile

    Set objFS = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")

    For Each objFile In objFS.GetFolder(Folder).Files

    'define this as it's own variable

    cellVar="<table width='120' border='0' cellpadding='6' cellspacing='1'><tr><td align='center' bgcolor='red'>" & "<i><b>" & objFile.Name & "</a></td></tr></table>"

    'this adds new items to the list

    list = list & cellVar

    Next

    end function

    function refresh()
    document.all.upd.InnerHTML = list()
    end function

    function window_onload()
    call setInterval("refresh()",1000)
    end function

    document.write "<SPAN id=upd>" & list() & "</SPAN>"

    </script>



    Voila.

     
    17 Oct. 2006 - 11:42 des
    TGHI :
    whoa! awesome! :) thank you! (is that was so easy? :D )

    another "problem" with this script:
    how can i write the outputs like this format? http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/604/howvf8.gif

    i did some changes in 1.6 and uploaded yet. but i will redesign some elements.

     
    17 Oct. 2006 - 14:27 DJ_Loao
    Just tried out 1.6 - des, this is excellent work! :)

    The drive info section works brilliantly, and especially like that you can lock the draggable items now! :)

    The renaming of the main links didn't work though - the edit box appears, but does nothing when I click 'Rename', even after I refreshed the desktop.
     
    17 Oct. 2006 - 14:31 DJ_Loao
    I just noticed, the drive info section isn't displaying a capacity for the audio cd in the drive right now. It says:

    Auidio CD (F)
    Capacity: 0 MB
    Free: 0 MB

    Don't know what thats all about...
     
    17 Oct. 2006 - 14:53 des
    DJ_Loao :

    and what about the another drive infos? only cdrom doesnt work? unfortunatelly i cant test it with cdrom because mine is died. but it works for me with a dvd-drive.
    i will re-check the drive renaming function.
     
    17 Oct. 2006 - 18:13 DJ_Loao
    My other drives read fine (4x HDD).
    Its just the F DVDR drive it reported oddly.
    I don't have any flash drives or anything installed to test those, sorry.
     
    17 Oct. 2006 - 20:58 TGHI
    DJ_Loao:


    Actually, that makes sense for a CD-ROM to report that, simply because it's a ROM filesystem and windows interprets this as no more files can be added to that volume....

    Des: you can fix the above problem by using the "totalSize" property instead of using "freeSpace". It will report the amount of bytes used by the current filesystem instead of remaining.
     
    17 Oct. 2006 - 22:48 DJ_Loao
    TGHI. Fair enough -I just assumed that as Explorer (yes I still use explorer :0) will tell you the recorded size of optical media, a script could be written to do the same.

    And judging by the rest of your post, I guess it can if you pick the right functions! ;)
     
    18 Oct. 2006 - 16:32 des
    TGHI:
    but it works fine for me...anyway i will (re)test it again.
     
    19 Oct. 2006 - 22:25 des
    there are a lot of changes in 1.7.. :) you will like it.

    normal settings panel:
    http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7347/setsimplecy1.png

    expanded settings panel:
    http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3690/setexpgl7.png

    and now it has an install script too.
    soon...
     
    19 Oct. 2006 - 23:05 DJ_Loao
    Wow. Those screenshots look excellent!
    Can't wait to play!
     
    20 Oct. 2006 - 03:49 TGHI
    Whoa, that looks impressive!
     
    21 Oct. 2006 - 00:19 des
    hehe.. 1.7 is ~130 Kb and has ~3200 lines of code. (actually it is ~1800 because i always use a blank row after every line)

    uhh.. the release date is sunday or monday. :)

    DJ_Loao : sorry, no dragable main links yet. :) but a bunch of new stuffz! :P

    and having problem with the install script. (on other pc) i think i will do that later.
     
    21 Oct. 2006 - 12:54 DJ_Loao
    :0 1.6 was 84K

    There must be lots of lovely new stuff coming! Can't wait!
     
    22 Oct. 2006 - 17:20 des
    i am working on it now. maybe tomorrow....
     
    22 Oct. 2006 - 19:12 DiosDePyro
    Ah, I wanted to mention:

    You said that if you had desktop icons shown that you can't use the draggable content, but that's just if you use hybrid as a desktop background. If you set it to Web Content (rt-click Properties/Desktop/Customize Desktop/Web) you can have your icons set, as well as having dragable content.
     
    22 Oct. 2006 - 19:53 des
    DiosDePyro:

    but the code was optimized for as desktop item not as "web item". once, i noticed if i use it as web item the target_self method (on each link) will not work correctly. (will open ie as a side effect or something.. i dont know. i dont use web items. i like better as desktop background item) but thanx for the info. ;)

    about 1.7: it's done!!!! (hope nothing new bugs!)

    - new colorpicker (much better, previous was slow while dragging)
    - 5 customlinks editable, etc.
    - rss (edit url, edit visible link number)
    - normal and tile iconview
    - now icon support!!! (with .ico files)
    - desktop img alpha value
    - refresh interval values settings
    - new quicknote "interface"
    - google search box
    - clock size settings
    - rename main and custom links
    - expandable "settings box" on settings

    http://des.virtualplastic.net/downloads/hybrid.rar !!!!
     
    22 Oct. 2006 - 23:37 DiosDePyro
    Ahhh. That's probably why I had the problem with the drive links not opening correctly that first time..
     
    23 Oct. 2006 - 00:50 DJ_Loao
    des, this is fantastic work.
    Looking forward to testing the RSS reader :)

    The new settings panel is great, but it runs very slowly for me... (XPSP2 IE6)
    The rest of the desktop is about as responsive as it ever was, but the control panel is very sluggish. Anyone else experience this?
     
    23 Oct. 2006 - 00:59 des
    yes a little bit slow (for me the response time ...0.5 sec), i know. hmm.. (did u mean the show/hide expandable menu?) i think this is because all the show / hide function look like this:
    ------------------
    function show_clock()
    if visible_clock = "false" then
    //set visible

    elseif visible_clock = "true" then
    //set hidden
    end if
    end function
    ------------------

    the script checks first the previous state (visible or hidden) and then does what it has to do... maybe this is the "problem"...i dont know. i deleted all my previous ( x < 1.6) versions.. i cant recheck it....ehh...
     
    23 Oct. 2006 - 14:43 des
    ups.. there is a bug in sp1 with the rss.. :) ehhh. if rss is enabled then an error msg will show up after 1 minute.
     
    23 Oct. 2006 - 17:27 DJ_Loao
    des, I still have each rar archive of your previous releases if they'd be useful?
     
    23 Oct. 2006 - 17:47 des
    this cnn rss is a piece of ***.. it slows everything. if i use another .xml then it's okay. i will set "nothing" as default rss url.

    DJ_Loao :

    would u send me the first file (1.0)? :D lol thx.
     
    23 Oct. 2006 - 19:16 DJ_Loao
    ...In your inbox :)
     
    23 Oct. 2006 - 19:49 des
    okay. thanx. :)
     
    24 Oct. 2006 - 01:06 DiosDePyro
    DJ_Loao, think you could send me a copy of 1.6?

    I accidentally deleted mine..
    My email is: djnemec at gmail dot com
     
    24 Oct. 2006 - 12:44 DJ_Loao
    Hehe. Sure. ;)

    You have mail.
     
    24 Oct. 2006 - 22:47 DiosDePyro
    Yay! Thank you.
     
    27 Oct. 2006 - 22:25 des
    nothing news yet. i am working on 1.8.
    there will be a special iconbar (with 16x16 icons) and a simple calendar...
     
    28 Oct. 2006 - 04:49 DiosDePyro
    Can't wait!
    Great work so far.
     
    30 Oct. 2006 - 04:36 des
    1.8 uploaded.

    added: iconbar/textbar, your contents panel (previously it was 'something' panel. ehh..:) and a simple calendar...)

    i think i will switch this to public alpha version soon (sooner or later, in the near future) ...but unfortunately there is a thing i still cant do. :( damn.

    http://des.virtualplastic.net/hybrid_preview2.png
    http://des.virtualplastic.net/downloads/hybrid.rar

    ps: i noticed a little bug with quicknote layer (the bottom layer with the textarea, etc) and the settings panel's alpha layer.(the 50% layer stuff when opening settings panel) it was strange because i didnt see on my computer. ..anyway.. it is fixed now.
     
    31 Oct. 2006 - 23:25 DJ_Loao
    Haven't really played with 1.8 yet, but the config page is slooooow... \:|

    Will try and look at the icon/textbar section tomorrow.
     
    01 Nov. 2006 - 00:05 des
    i know. i am working on it to make it faster. fortunately i know why is this slow. i will fix it soon. (i have to rewrite all the show/hide functions because it reloads after every "command". mainly this is why is this so slow.) i have a faster version yet but it is not finished yet.
     
    03 Nov. 2006 - 04:44 des
    unfortunately there is a fatal bug in this 'dynamic' hybrid. i think due to the 5000 lines of code.. ehh... sh*t... damn.

    (you can see (in taskmgr) the bug when u press f5 several times on deskop, the mem. usage will goes up! i did a 400 mega usage of explorer.exe! :D lol . omg!!!) and dont forget the settings panel uses a lot of page reloads!!!!

    my static (basic version of hybrid) version works fine without this problem. maybe i will make a static version (static means; no user inputs on css settings only when it is necessary!.. user can change thinsg in an external css file)

    ahh.. damn it...so.. no newer versions till this bug exists. sorry. the hybrid project now is delayed.. (no canceled, just delayed!)

    i think a simpler version of hybrid will be very cool and faster than this 5000 lines of code slow thing.. :) css the future! :)
     
    03 Nov. 2006 - 07:28 des
    the situation is not so FATAL! :) only 1 script causes that fatal bug with the memory!

    but i will make a lite version of hybrid too! :) with only the necessary functions. (notes, events, scheduler, drive info, and some others.)
     
    04 Nov. 2006 - 00:34 DJ_Loao
    Cool. I'm glad you found out what was slowing it down. :)

    One idea you might consider is making it a bit more modular.
    So rather than having all its functions written into the core page, remove them to external .js files. Then I would imagine you can make a control panel to load or unload modules as desired (by setting a registry entry then reloading perhaps).

    For example I might not use the scheduler often, so being able to remove its code dynamically from the page (not loading the .js) could improve performance.

    I don't know how easy this would be to do, given how advanced the Hybrid is, however...
     
    04 Nov. 2006 - 01:27 des
    ups! that is a fantastic idea!!! :) THANX!!!! :) external css and external scripts.. whoa! this will really improve performance! megathanx for thr idea! :)) importing script if needed is simple.. like show or not show elements..

    humm.. but there is a question now! lite version (only the necessary functions) or enhanced version (more functions + external script files and css file)?

    btw. i have merged the quicknotes and my events script (events like in rainlendar) into 1 script. very cool! :) cant wait to work on the new hybrid!!! whaaaaaaaa.. :D
     
    06 Nov. 2006 - 20:36 DJ_Loao
    I like the idea of the enhanced version, with all your script available if you need them. :)

    Although a lite version along side it would be good for first-time users etc... Its up to you! ;)
     
    17 Nov. 2006 - 18:01 des
    nothing yet.. maybe in 2007/january.... (i am busy now)

    btw, windows vista doesnt have active desktop feature.. that suxx.. i really wont switch to vista... i like win-xp.
     
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